Debunking the New York Times on Gun Control

By the Principled Libertarian


Don’t be surprised if this article from The New York Times about mass shootings starts making the rounds again.

I’ve archived it here.
https://archive.fo/fJtDN

There are a couple glaring issues with the article.

First, the authors employ a strategy that is often used by gun control advocates; they focus on gun homicides, and sometimes even all gun-related deaths, rather than all murders. But why? Perhaps criminals use other means for murder when gun ownership is lower, and I suspect a death is equally as meaningful to the victims if it’s with a knife or a truck. Also, using all gun deaths is going to include suicides (which account for 2/3 of gun deaths) and justified killings as well as accidents. Talking about “gun deaths” shifts the conversation to mostly suicides instead of murders or mass shootings.


For example, when comparing US states, the authors claim there is a correlation between gun ownership rate and gun murders. But if we look at their source, it is referencing all gun deaths (an honest mistake I’m sure 🙄). If we look at gun ownership rate and overall murder rate, there is no meaningful correlation.

https://mises.org/blog/theres-no-correlation-between-gun-ownership-mass-shootings-and-murder-rates

Another issue with the narrative is all but admitted by the authors, “the United States death rate by mass shooting was 1.5 per one million people. The rate was 1.7 in Switzerland and 3.4 in Finland, suggesting American mass shootings were not actually so common.”

The same source claims Norway’s mass shooting death rate is 13 per one million people.

Another source had similar findings.
Here, the author found the US ranked 11th out of 18 among Canada and European countries for mass shooting death rate. The frequency of mass shootings in the US was 12th out of 18.

UPDATED: Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe

We need to keep in mind the US is half a continent and 320+ million people. For reference, Norway has roughly the same population as Minnesota. So if it seems like mass shootings are a lot more common here than in Europe, that’s because “here” has far more people than any single country in Europe.

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No, the Australia Buyback is NOT Successful Gun Control

By the Principled Libertarian


No, the mandatory gun buyback program in Australia does not prove that gun control works.

Homicide rate, which includes murder and manslaughter, has been trending down in Australia since its peak in the mid 80s. The mandatory gun buyback program was put in place in 1996, and there was not a significant change in the downward trend. (1)


The firearm homicide rate was also declining before the buyback program (pictured). Lee and Suardi in a 2008 report found “There is little evidence to suggest that [the mandatory buyback program] had any significant effects on firearm homicides.” (2) Baker and McPhedran had a similar finding in a 2007 report: “the gun buy-back and restrictive legislative changes had no influence on firearm homicide in Australia.” (3)

New Zealand has relatively loose gun restrictions compared to neighboring Australia. It has not issued a mandatory gun buyback program. Between 1980 and 1996 Australia and New Zealand both experienced mass shootings, and did so at a similar rate when standardized per 100,000 people (.0042 and .005 respectively). Since 1997 there have been no mass shootings in either country, which means that arguably the best control group we have reveals a problem with attributing the decline in mass shootings to the gun control measures. (4)

There were higher victimization rates of sexual assault, armed robbery and unarmed robbery in the few years after the buyback compared to the few years before. (5)

There has also been mass killings by other means in Australia. A knife attack on children killed 8 in 2014 (6), and there were 6 fatalities with at least 30 more injured by a vehicular attack in 2017. (7)

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The Philosopher also debunks 3 Gun Control Myths:

https://steemit.com/anarchy/@thepholosopher/3-common-gun-control-myths-debunked

SOURCES

  1. http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/Lookup/4524A092E30E4486CA2569DE00256331
  2. https://ssaa.org.au/news-resources/research-archive/the-australian-firearms-buyback-and-its-effect-on-gun-deaths-report/
  3. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2121108
  4. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2122854
  5. http://web.archive.org/web/20170712155332/http://www.aic.gov.au/dataTools/facts/vicViolentRate.html
  6. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairns_child_killings
  7. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2017_Melbourne_car_attack

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What if Walmart failed to provide security?

By the Principled Libertarian


If Wal-Mart didn’t provide a safe and secure environment for its patrons it would lose customers and eventually go out of business, and public outrage would (rightfully) be directed at Wal-Mart.

When a school and its security force (public police) fail to protect their patrons outrage is instead directed toward unrelated peaceful gun owners. And patrons don’t even have the option to stop “shopping” there. Funding is mandated by law and so is attendance.


It’s difficult to find a more suitable word than “tyranny” when a parent has their child shot at in school while an officer waits outside, and is forced to continue sending their child there while funding both the school and the police department.

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My wife told me about an incident that happened at a Walmart in New Mexico where a man stabbed a woman dozens of times and was stopped by a “good guy with a gun”. The woman lived.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471470/posts


Here is a related video from the Subversion Webcast that poses this question and many others where we accept it if it is the state doing it, but would not if it was a so-called private entity:

Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun

By the Principled Libertarian


Gun use can save lives too, and probably at a much higher rate than it takes lives.

There are quite a few surveys on private defensive gun use in the United States. Estimates on the number of defensive uses range from 3/4 of a million to over 3.5 million per year.


Kleck and Gertz’ survey’s result was near the middle at 2.2 to 2.5 million. Of those 2+ million, they report 15.7% thought their gun use almost certainly saved a life. That gives us an estimate of 350,000-400,000 lives saved per year by defensive gun use.

Even if we assume that to be an overestimation, we could still be talking about tens of thousands more than the CDC’s estimate of 11,000 firearm homicides per year.

Is the “Good Guy with a Gun” a myth?

A very long list of violent crimes and potential mass killings that were stopped by private gun owners. They received little media attention.

UPDATED: Compiling Cases where concealed handgun permit holders have stopped mass public shootings and other mass attacks

Source: Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/jclc/vol86/iss1/8/

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FPF #160 – Trump's CPAC Speech

On FPF #160, I breakdown Trump’s CPAC Speech. In the speech, Trump celebrates increased military spending and moving the US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Trump also makes threats and announces new sanctions against North Korea. I point out Trump’s lies and explain why non-intervention is a better path. 

Links

Mark Perry on the Tom Woods Show

Coast Guard to enforce sanctions on North Korea

FPF – Will Porter on the NNS

Source: Foreign Policy Focus – FPF #160 – Trump's CPAC Speech

Episode 65 – Blade Runner 2049 (47:55)

Robert and I take a dive into the world of Blade Runner where warrants aren’t necessary and either is a scrolling text that is large enough to read.

This was a followup to the cult-classic, sci-fi film noir, Blade Runner where replicants and humans have a rocky coexistence once free will is discovered by the replicant slaves.

Blade Runner 2049 is a beautiful movie that has taken great care in the craft of film making, has a deliberate pace that realizes the vision of the director. Unfortunately, they miss the off-world ship about having a coherent story. We get into it.


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The Colonies’ Parallel Wars for Independence: Patrick MacFarlane @ AgoraSymposium 2018 Ep. 57

For my first speaking even with the Liberty Weekly Podcast, I argue that there really were two wars for colonial independence: one led with words and debate by the founding fathers, and the real war for independence that was waged by thousands of average, liberty loving people through insurgency, agorism, and a passionate defense of natural liberty. Furthermore, I assert that every day libertarians should revere the second revolution over the first, and look to it for guidance.

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The Colonies' Parallel Wars for Independence: Patrick MacFarlane @ AgoraSymposium 2018 Ep. 57

For my first speaking even with the Liberty Weekly Podcast, I argue that there really were two wars for colonial independence: one led with words and debate by the founding fathers, and the real war for independence that was waged by thousands of average, liberty loving people through insurgency, agorism, and a passionate defense of natural liberty. Furthermore, I assert that every day libertarians should revere the second revolution over the first, and look to it for guidance.

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Dear Mr. Republican's Advice to Both liberals and Conservatives

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In the wake of the tragic school shooting in Parkland, FL, I’ve been thinking a lot about the issue of guns in this country, which is really, in some ways, unique. 

I’d like to say something first to conservatives and then to liberals.

For Conservatives

It’s time to take our positions in this argument to the “next level.” So many of us relegate ourselves to grossly oversimplified clichés and conspiracies that range from misleading to wrong to simply unhelpful. They don’t actually do anything to further healthy debate.

For example, how many times have we or someone around us said something like, “Guns don’t kill people; people kill people”? There’s a kernel of truth to this–but only a kernel. That’s why it’s misleading. Kernels of truth don’t bring us closer to solutions.

There are logical fallacies with all of these clichés too. For instance, to the extent that guns don’t kill people, nuclear bombs don’t either. As with guns, nuclear bombs don’t harm anyone until people decide to use them. Should this then be an argument that all 325 million Americans should have their own nuclear arsenals? Of course not. There’s more to it than these little clichés indicate, so stop undercutting our own arguments by tossing these soundbites around.

Frankly, it’s simpleminded to begin and end your argument with an overworked cliché.

Another common one: “Guns are the private citizen’s fundamental protection from an overbearing government.” Saying this makes you immediately sound as though you have no credibility to the very people you’re trying to convince.

Practically, the government kills FAR fewer Americans than private citizens kill. More often than not, the government–via the intelligence community, law enforcement, the military, etc.–is in the business of saving lives, not taking them.

There’s also a stone cold practical reality here: When the Second Amendment was written, the arms that the citizens owned were the same ones that the government owned. When you joined the military, you may well have simply grabbed your own musket and headed off to fight.

In case we’ve failed to notice two centuries of changes, things are a little different now. If the government decided to come for you today, you wouldn’t be facing muskets. The balance of power of weaponry between government and citizenry has changed dramatically–in the favor of the government.

Guns no longer offer us protection from the government. No matter how many rifles, shotguns, pistols, or AR-15’s you own, you’d be powerless against tanks, heavy armor, missiles, jets, 50-caliber armor-piercing machine guns, and various types of chain guns that can lay down over 80 pieces of lead every single second in your direction.

​Your best bet would simply be to lay down your guns and surrender. So, seriously, let’s drop this impractical, conspiratorial argument. The days when it applied have come and gone. (Besides, considering all the murders and terrorism that take place today, there are probably more important threats to protect ourselves from than a federal government that kills almost no one, so let’s stop defeating ourselves by repeating this conspiracy theory.)

Finally, we call ourselves “strict constructionists”–meaning that we see ourselves as the side that literally interprets the constitution, relative to the liberals who take all sorts of liberties with it.

Let’s look at that through the lens of our prior nuclear weapons example. The Second Amendment simply says that we have the right to keep and bear “arms.” It doesn’t define that term, however, and never mentions “guns,” which are just one type of arm.

Therein lies the difficulty in always strictly applying something written in the 18th Century to events in the 21st Century.

Most of us conservatives agree that private citizens should not be able to own nuclear weapons–or cruise missiles or any other arms like these. How many of you have a confrontational relationship with your neighbors but would still be perfectly happy with their having nuclear bombs, cruise missiles, and tanks sitting in their backyard pointed at your house?

​I didn’t think so. We also agree that people who’ve committed mass murder with a gun shouldn’t be able to buy anymore guns. (Yes, one mass murder each is probably enough, right?)

Wait though: In agreeing to prevent private ownership of nuclear weapons and to prevent mass murderers from buying anymore guns, we’re taking a less-than-strict interpretation of the Second Amendment. It simply says “arms,” not guns.

It also says that our right “shall not be infringed”; it doesn’t say “shall not be infringed UNLESS…” So, by default, we’re already not strictly interpreting the Second Amendment.

It’s intellectually dishonest to say that restricting gun ownership in any way is a violation of the Second Amendment but that restrictions on nuclear bombs, felons, children, etc. aren’t. Let’s be honest about that: It’s our interpretation. It isn’t an objective fact.

The truth of the matter is that we have no idea how people like George Washington would have reacted to nuclear bombs, mass shootings of children in schools, etc. We can have a more effective place in this debate if we begin by being honest with each other and with ourselves.

Where does this leave us? Frankly, it probably leaves us with the reality that some sort of restrictions are justified and, regardless of justification, are coming.

That should be clear: both at the state and federal levels, restrictions in some form or fashion are coming. If we scratch and fight against ALL reforms, then all we’re doing is simply locking ourselves out of having any influence in the discussion since public opinion has turned so decisively against us.

​Policymakers are going to start responding to that change in opinion. If we drop our clichés and shaky, convenient Second Amendment arguments, then we could earn ourselves a seat at the table in these debates and have real impact on the types of reforms that are eventually enacted.

For Liberals

Get off your moral high horses. I mean, seriously, what’s wrong with you?

​The current gun debate highlights very well why so many conservatives have given up trying to discuss difficult issues with you: you turn every issue into both an indictment and a conviction of someone’s morals.

Christian opposition to gay marriage? Immoral and homophobic. Republican support for corporate tax cuts? Immoral and corrupt. GOP efforts to reduce the cost of our welfare system? Immoral and cold. Conservative concerns about abortions–especially certain types of abortions? Immoral and sexist.

Anyone who disagrees with you about anything at all? Immoral and unethical. (I mean, there couldn’t possibly be any other reasons for any of these positions, could there?)

The same goes for Second Amendment rights. Those who support them? Immoral–murderers even. The NRA? They’re murderers. (Because of course they are.) Marco Rubio? He’s a murderer too. (Didn’t you know?) Anyone who receives NRA donations? You guessed it: murderers. (Because the cash that most of us use is harmless, but NRA cash is that rare kind that kills people.

New cliché for us: “People don’t kill people; NRA cash kills people.” Quick! Someone put that on a sign and go march around outside in the street with it!) How can you expect anyone to engage you in a healthy discussion when you’re asking them to wade through a bunch of water that you’ve already poisoned? If they make it through, then they still have to yell up at you on top of your ivory tower. That’s no way to have a productive discussion. Stop it.

When you encounter clichés and conspiracies from the Right, you have an opportunity to listen, to try to understand, and to address them factually as I’ve just done. Instead, you ridicule and belittle. It’s time for some real soul-searching on this.

As I said above, I agree that something must be done. Should we take away everyone’s guns? Absolutely not. That is indisputably unconstitutional, and even if the government ordered us to turn them over, I and many others would refuse. Are there some reasonable, less Draconian restrictions that may be helpful though? Yes, absolutely.

Be intellectually honest about it though: The cold, hard reality is that none of the restrictions under discussion are likely to have much impact on shootings.

–Enact a “waiting period” after gun purchases? (Most people who shoot another person have had guns for months or even years. A waiting period won’t make much difference.)

–Ban bump stocks? (Sure, but how many shootings involve the use of bump stocks? Las Vegas? Which others? Not many. It also isn’t clear how much difference not having a bump stock would have made in Las Vegas. The shooter would have fired fewer rounds for sure, but his fire would also have been more accurate.)

–Prevent mentally ill people from buying guns? (I agree it should be done, but let’s be honest: How many shooters have mental illness diagnoses? Very few.)

–Limit gun buying only to those over the age of 21? (Most shooters are over 21. Las Vegas anyone?)

–Ban semi-automatic weapons such as the AR-15. (Sure, but how many shootings involve semi-automatic weapons? Most don’t.)

That’s really where we are. There are 350 million guns in this country, so restrictions like those can really only nip around the edges. They can’t fundamentally change the reality here. There’s this mythical idea floating around that if we just “ban guns,” then we’ll all live happily ever after, perhaps even while holding hands. Some things aren’t very clear, but this is: That wouldn’t solve the problem. Sure, it might help some, but it won’t solve the problem completely or even come close.

One unfortunate reality of going too far with restrictions can be seen in your (liberals’) own arguments on another issue: legalizing certain drugs. The argument goes that legalizing these drugs undercuts black markets for drugs and increases government tax revenue. That can be applied to guns as well: banning them would lead to the creation of a healthy black market for guns and would deprive governments of some revenue.

So the issue really is complicated. Let’s stop pretending that it’s as simple as just defeating conservatives and getting some sort of severe restrictions on gun ownership. It wouldn’t work out quite like that.

For everyone

Our focus right now is on “supply side” (gun) solutions. Too many guns? Too few? Too many restrictions? Too few? This is understandable. Guns drive ratings, so the media has much incentive to harp on them.

The Second Amendment mentions arms (which we limit to “guns” today), so it makes sense to talk about guns. These mass murderers are using guns, so, again, let’s talk about guns, right?

Wrong.

I do believe that some restrictions on gun ownership are overdue. We should expand background checks. We should bar mentally ill people from buying guns. We should ban bump stocks. That said, those reforms would have only a very, very small impact. Is it worth it? Of course. I’d never tell a parent that his murdered child was only one and that one wasn’t worth saving.

All are worth saving.

Something feels missing though. Is saving just a few the best we can do? 

Well, if we’re only focused on “guns,” then, yes, it is. Saving only a few is the best we can hope for.

Our focus should be on the other side: defense. Another cliché goes like this: “The best defense is a good offense.” In real life, that usually isn’t true. That best defense in most things in life is simply good defense. (Gosh, we humans love our clichés though! It’s hard to let go of them.)

The truth of the matter is that regardless of what we do with guns, schools will remain extremely soft, high visibility, undefended targets for people who have a bone to pick with society.

An AR-15 isn’t necessary to wreak havoc. A calm person with a revolver could walk into a school with six bullets and leave six young bodies in his wake. It would be small comfort to those parents to say, “Yes, but you should feel better. We banned AR-15’s, so thankfully only yours and five others were killed. It could have been more. Pat me on the back now please.”

That wouldn’t go over well, but that’s, in effect, what some the proposals mean.

My proposal

Yes, enact reasonable restrictions on gun ownership like those I just mentioned. Don’t kid yourselves though: It’s time to focus on defense. The only way to stop these things on school campuses is to defend school campuses. The way to prevent a soft target from being attacked is to make it no longer a soft target.

This is, quite honestly, very basic.

I don’t know the right way to handle this, but I do know that this is where we should be looking. You could arm a certain proportion of teachers. You could hire contracted security officers. You could have local police and sheriff’s departments pick up security duty at schools. You could set up trained volunteer security units (like trained volunteer fire departments). You could send all kids, teachers, coaches, etc. through metal detectors before they’re allowed onto campuses. There are any number of proposals with varying costs and other pros and cons.

​Some may not work at all. Some may work quite well. Some may not be feasible, while others certainly are.

This is were we have to look though. We have to make schools harder targets. Is it sad that we need to do this? Of course it is, but it would be even sadder to refuse to do this either for ideological reasons or simply because we don’t think we ought to have to “in this country.” The fact of the matter is that this country has a problem with gun violence, and the best way to combat it is to make common targets much more difficult to hit.

No matter the restrictions placed on gun ownership, if someone really wants to carry out a shooting at a school, they’ll be able to do so–unless they can’t. They’ll be able to do so unless schools’ defenses are such that it’s just far too difficult. We can’t completely keep dangerous people from getting guns, so we have to make sure that when–yes, when–they do, they’re not able to attack our schools with them. That’s where real solutions lie.

No, it won’t win ideological fights. No, it won’t drive media ratings. It will save lives though.

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FPF #159 – Yemen Cheat Sheet

On FPF #159, I discuss a Bloomberg article claiming to be a summary of the Yemen Humanitarian Crisis. I break down who all the players in the Yemen Civil War. I debunk some of the most common myths from the US media and government about Yemen. I explain why the humanitarian crisis in Yemen has gotten so bad. I also update the Assad bombing of East Gouta and Operation Olive Branch. 

Links

US looks to pass UN Resolution against Iran

Southern Separatists seize Aden

FPF#130 – Yemen and Israel with Will Porter

Source: Foreign Policy Focus – FPF #159 – Yemen Cheat Sheet